EP. 22: How Diet Affects Us

For our second Holistic Health Anonymous, I sent out a topic for all my followers to answer on an upcoming podcast episode:  What diet or nutrition plan has negatively or positively impacted you or a family member's health?

This time, I had two similar responders. Interestingly, both of these perspectives included gluten. Maybe their experiences could help you with the symptoms you're experiencing, too!

Listen to this month's Holistic Health Anonymous and at the end of the episode I'll announce next month's question! Would you like to share your experience?

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Show Notes

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So this is our second Holistic Health Anonymous and the topic today is diet. So how has diet impacted health and wellness? I know my husband and I, we've shared our story. I've shared multiple stories with the kiddos. So we have a couple of listeners who want to share their story with how their diet positively positively and drastically impacted their lives and not only their lives but their family's lives,

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their motivation, their functioning. So let's dig in and hear their side of the story.

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You ready?

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Okay, well thank you for having me on today. So my name is Hagan and 10 years ago I had my second and final baby and right after I had him things were just different so every day I woke up and I felt very foggy I felt very sore I had this shortness of breath to me even like just going up the stairs and doing routine tasks I just had a lack of motivation and sinus issues all the time. I was grouchy and every night I think I said the same thing at the same time which is my stomach hurts and my husband said you say that every night almost this exact same time it just mostly after eating a few hours after eating and I just had low energy and I kept

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thinking like this is just you know new mom like I had another baby a year and a month before that, so I was just really trying to blame it on something. And at that time my son was having a lot of reflux and I went and talked to lactation and they said, well sometimes dairy can help with the reflux from the mom, how about you take out dairy. So I did that and at that time I was eating the standard American diet, so a lot of bread, a lot of milk, a lot of cheese, yogurt, things that like you know on the food

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pyramid looked good, you know 6-8 servings of grains and dairy and you know a little bit of fruits and vegetables sprinkled in but no real idea about what whole foods were. So I thought, oh my gosh, my stomach feels, is this what normal feels like? So after two weeks of being dairy free I had no stomach issues. I thought, well this is it, maybe this is causing my problems. But unfortunately everything else was still there. Still had the brain fog, still had the exhausted low energy,

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I still had acne, just overall sore, and I thought there's gotta be something different. And just in that timeframe, my sister had called me, she was actually going through the exact same thing, and she said, I'm gonna try gluten-free, and I thought, there's no way.

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I don't even know what that means. You know, at that time, we didn't have as much social media as we have now and like TED Talks and awareness and I didn't even know what a functional medicine doctor was and I wasn't understanding how diet would impact my lifestyle. But I had a suspicion because I knew what the dairy-free and what is gluten and how can I make my life gluten-free. So I started with gluten-free products, so gluten-free

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muffins, gluten-free bread, gluten-free pasta and did I feel better? Absolutely! It took you know that six to nine months of transitioning to understand wow things are really starting to change. My acne was starting to get more clear. I wasn't sick as frequently. I could lift my babies and do things and not feel exhausted.

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I was sleeping deeper than I was before. I was starting to become more motivated. I started to have some more life in me. So I did that for about two or three years where I was using a lot of gluten-free products. And then when my kids started to go to preschool, when I had a little bit more time, you know time, everyone needs time, right?

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When I had a little bit more time, I started to explore just this life of what's naturally

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gluten-free?

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What's a whole food diet look like where I'm not buying all these gluten-free labeled things? What does a life of naturally gluten-free look like and I went through the Whole30 program several times to really identify what other areas are my problem and really grains I have found are just not good for me. So the gluten free label things, they were great for going gluten free but now how can I maintain a more healthy lifestyle where all symptoms are gone. So when I went to preschool I started digging into that.

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I dropped them off at preschool, I go straight to the grocery store, I would get what I could, go home, cook something fast and furious and I realized, wow, this is another turning point. So after a few rounds, a whole 30, I eventually also found out that beans and peanuts are not my friend either, so I eliminated those. And you know, not to say that I'm never going to have a peanut butter cookie that's gluten-free.

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I will take a bite of that for sure. And not that I'll say I'll never eat something with beans in it, but my lifestyle's not centered around those two food groups along with dairy and gluten. So then when my son went to kindergarten,

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I said, I feel so full of life. I went back to teaching. I got my master's. I'm coaching two sports of my daughter. I can feel like I literally can conquer anything. I am just happy and full of life and joy.

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And I know that, well, part of it I know is my faith, right? We know that we're all here because we have the joy of something else. It's not always earthly things, but that diet has a huge part of my earthly joy.

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Absolutely, I love that. And I love how you kind of went through that journey of you know good better with gluten-free processed food But now you're living your best life truly with

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Enjoying and being present for your kids

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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and you know, it's not easy and I think that sometimes you know when I heard the words I'm I got a gluten-free that sounded very hard and then when I thought to myself if I've done that I can make this jump to real food and you know it's been the best thing that I've ever done for me and my family so my family's been gluten-free for seven years and it's just like something that comes natural to all of us. My son had a really bad bout of eczema right before that preschool that

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was just like staining his skin and after gluten-free it's never ever came back. My daughter's belly was so descended we had to do ultrasounds. The doctor thought there was something in there, it was really scary. And she was backed up so far in her bowels and ever since she's gluten free,

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she's just grown and changed and it's made a difference for all of us.

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Yeah, absolutely. And I love it that it's a lifestyle. It always breaks my heart when they throw medications, especially, you know, medications at kids instead of treating the root of the issue. Yeah. Yeah.

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And you know, a lot of people will say like, well, how do I know if I should go gluten-free?

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And honestly, my true advice is to just do an elimination diet because you will know you do not need to go through all the things and the testing and the endoscopies. You can absolutely if that is what you need to do. But I'm telling you, an elimination diet of 21 to 30 days of no gluten, if you see any changes, that is the red flag

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if you see some things that are gone that you used to deal with.

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Exactly, and I feel like there's better compliance when you kind of initiate that yourself and stick with it, versus if you have a test and you're told what you can't eat versus what's allowed, I just feel like people do better choosing to do that elimination diet

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and then making the lifestyle transitions. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, did you find it hard?

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I feel like the other challenge is society kind of tells us since it's so fast paced, you don't have time to cook or eat at home, so let's do packaged food, let's do processed food. After that initial hurdle, did you find it's actually easier to cook from scratch?

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I did, and people always say, send me your best gluten-free recipes. And it's like, I just tell them, a protein and a fruit and vegetable. Like, that is every meal. We eat a protein and a roasted vegetable.

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It doesn't have to be a recipe, and I think that's what sounds intimidating. Then the transition from just grocery store meat to sourcing, knowing a local farmer, and getting a good source. There are so many jumps in this whole food diet that I have made over the years. That's why it's not a quick fix.

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It's been 10 years and I'm finally finding a grass-fed farmer or vegetables that are grown near me. You know, it's just, you can do what you can. So, when, yeah, people say they don't have time, like, I'm okay with going to Walmart and getting my veggies if I have to in the middle of winter.

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Like, you just do what you can do to get protein and fiber and whole foods on the table, and you're going to be better off in the packaged foods.

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Absolutely. Yeah, it was funny last week. I had a patient because I'm transitioning her to a whole foods diet and She's noticed an improvement in a month, but she's like dr. Heather I need a plan like I need to know how many calories I can eat how many macros And I'm like that's society telling you you need that like we don't need that it's it's kind of common sense

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But I did suggest the whole 30 because that's a great if you need like structure. That's a great place to start

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Yeah, I love their PDF of the plate that shows like a thumb of fat Fists of protein the rest veggies, you know and in some fruit obviously or nuts and seeds in that fat That's um, but like that was a really good visual for me and I try to share that with others, too Yeah, it's just easy to wrap your head around Mm-hmm, and you know rules around food people don't like rules around food So I try to start it up to say know this know that you know

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Just like our kids don't say like don't jump off the chair. They're gonna jump off the chair So we're trying to say the yes things like you here's all the things you can eat like and I think whole 30 I think Melissa's kind of changed her thoughts to I'm like snacking like she's like she used to be like no snacks But now she's like if it's going in your mouth, that's whole 30 like feel your body with it. Exactly, listen to

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your gut. Awesome, well thank you so much for taking the time to share. Yes, yeah and

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I just I can't thank you enough like you really helped me in the very beginning of this whole journey and just worth mentioning foods here and there about how food relates to how you feel and I didn't know what that meant you know now internalizing those thoughts, I do, but you planted the seed. You really did, so I really appreciate it. And you really helped fix my sciatica years ago, but I know part of that was inflammation. And like the one time I had been glutened, I can't believe this, five years ago, I ate

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a gluten-free cupcake at a party that was mislabeled. My sciatica came back. I woke up the next day and I was sore. It's like, I'm just inflamed. You know, like, it was so crazy. Like, I had this neck injury from college basketball too.

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Like, both of those things, after I got gluten, I'm like, wow, that's, yeah.

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Yeah, inflammation will settle in your weak spots. Absolutely. Yeah, and it's not, and you've known this, it's not your body turning on you, it's what you're fueling or not fueling your body with that's making it symptomatic. Absolutely. Yeah.

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How long did it take for that inflammation to get out of your system? Oh my gosh, like a month. It was bad.

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Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, that time I was transitioning from the gluten-free to whole foods, that's why I was eating a cupcake, but I think that probably had something to do with it. I wasn't really, I know now, like if I'm really sick or I'm preparing for like a procedure

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or something that I am, really whole foods because I know that I'm going to recover better.

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Absolutely.

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All right, well, welcome. Thank you for coming on the show.

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Of course.

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And of course, we're talking about how diet has influenced health and wellness. And go ahead and start sharing your journey with us.

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Yeah. So my name is Holly. Um, I am 22. Um, I am a medical student and, um, essentially I was diagnosed about a year ago, um, with, uh, sensitivity to gluten. Um, so I've been gluten free for one year, uh, and I am so much happier and healthier, um, because of it. But essentially, I've always, as far as I can remember,

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I've always had like IBS or IBD, which as we know, it's kind of a broad, general term. So I've always had GI symptoms, but nothing was ever diagnosed. And essentially then in high school, I became lactose intolerant and I had a lot of lab tests done at that point. So I had like a

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full lab panel but nothing abnormal was ever shown and I always ate fairly healthy but I never like excluded anything from my diet. And my junior year of college I started to become pretty sick. I was getting sick a lot in general. So colds, influenza, COVID, sinus problems. But on top of all of that, I started to experience really bad migraines.

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And this is something I never really had an issue with before, kind of runs in my family a little bit. Like my mom used to get them, but besides that, there was no reason why I should have had migraines. Besides maybe stress, right?

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Obviously in college, you go through a lot, and you're looking at your computer a lot, and studying. So I thought maybe that could be the reason why. However, my migraines only got worse. And at this point they were affecting my everyday life pretty severely. And I was in school though and I didn't have time to go to a doctor or

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talk with anyone about it in depth. And so I got some migraine medication and I kept on going. But I did have other symptoms as well and at the time, it's funny because I didn't even know they were symptoms. But now I know they definitely were. And we'll get into that later a little bit with when I took gluten out of my diet and I saw all of those symptoms that gluten was causing me. And just to know, along with my migraines, I had an incredibly sore neck.

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And I found that my neck would get very inflamed and stiff. And I know now that gluten can cause joint pain and inflammation. And I was definitely experiencing that. It was not just me looking down at my laptop. So I continue to have GI symptoms,

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but that was not really anything new to me. I just, again, thought I had IBS. And going into the summer, I only noticed it getting worse, and that was weird because I did think maybe it was from studying or stress or all of those things. So a week after a vacation in the summer,

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which I ate a ton of bread and carbs, a ton of them. I became very, very sick. I had tons of GI symptoms and other symptoms and I felt horrible. And I'm going to kind of go through GI symptoms that you can get. I'm not going to confirm the symptoms that I've had, because that's a little personal, but I am going to go through a list of some symptoms that you can get, uh, just for listeners to know, uh, what to maybe look

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out for.

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So one of the main things that you think about, uh, with a gluten sensitivity is

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bloating.

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Bloating can range.

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It can be pretty severe. It can be on and off. Um, but bloating, another one is gas. And along with gas comes, you know, stool movement, so stuff like diarrhea. And I want to further note that with gluten, you can get malabsorption. So malabsorption can then lead to stool containing abnormally high levels of fat. So this can be referred to as steatorrhea.

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That's like the medical term, but essentially it can make your stool be like very foul smelling. It almost can look greasy or yellowish, orange, or oily is another word that can be used for having fat in the stool,

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which comes from that malabsorption. So yeah, and then abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, those are other GI symptoms that you can see as well. So at this point, I genuinely could not keep anything in me. I was so sick and I remember eating soup at one point after I started feeling a little

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better and it was chicken noodle soup and I got very sick after that and I was like, hmm, well, there's not a lot in this right now, except for like the noodles. So that was a big red flag for me. And at this point, I considered obviously talking with my aunt. And before that, I did get labs done again. And because I was adamant something was wrong. I didn't know what, but I knew that as a healthy young girl I should not be having all of these symptoms and problems. I just shouldn't. And that brings me to a point of it is very important to advocate for yourself. You know, you have to. You have to advocate until you find either someone that can help you out or until you get the help that you need

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because it's never normal to feel sick. Yeah, so I just wanna say that, that's very important. Now my labs, everything was overall fine. There was one thing that kinda stood out to me and it was that my alkaline phosphatase was low. Now, of course, what do you do? You go to Google. And I went to Google,

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and I was looking things up. And I found out that low levels of ALP could be a sign of malabsorption. So we're back to this malabsorption point. So what is it malabsorption of? Well, it's malabsorption of nutrients or proteins. And this can be, with some people, celiac disease. That's a whole different end of the spectrum. But essentially alkaline phosphatase, it plays a role in maintaining the gut barrier. And for example, it protects against leaky gut syndrome. So that's a whole another point. But as I said, you know, celiac, it's a whole different thing. It's a very serious disease. And at that point in time, though, it was my closest assumption,

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because I didn't know about gluten sensitivities. And I didn't know there was such a wide range, and a whole spectrum of diagnoses that you can get. You know, you can be sensitive to gluten, you can be allergic to gluten, you can have an intolerance, or you can have celiac. And even within that, you know,

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even if you're sensitive to gluten, you could have just some joint pain from it, or you can feel very, very sick from it.

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Yeah.

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And regardless, however you're feeling, it's obviously important, and it's something that you might want to cut out. So at this point, what did I do? I went to my aunt, my aunt Heather, and I was desperate.

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I was like, please help me. I think it's gluten, but I don't know what it is. And she ultimately did the ALCAT test on me. And I'll let you speak for a bit kind of about what the ALCAT test is because I think it's obviously it measures for food sensitivities but yeah like you said there's so many different levels of sensitivities or

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intolerances so the ALCAT is really cool. They've been around for over 10 years but the ALCAT it's a simple blood test and it checks for candida. It checks for over 150 foods, but it can check up to 300 depending on what panel you run. And the cool thing they've come out lately is you can check for, especially for kiddos, like food dyes, additives, artificial sweeteners, herbs, Some supplements are covered, fungus, mold, things like that.

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So for you, I remember we just kind of did the basics because we figured it was gluten, but we just needed confirmation of what other triggers there might be. The only challenge, because this is considered like a functional test, it's not covered by insurance.

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Unless, you know, you check for celiac, which is an autoimmune, and that is covered by insurance. So that's the only I want to say caveat with ALCAT but it's a really simple simple test. Yeah yeah and thank goodness I did it. So the food sensitivities test report came back and it found that I had a moderate reaction to gluten and a severe reaction to gliadin. So what is gliadin? That was my first thought. I was like, what is this?

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Gliadin. No, you don't hear about it. You only ever hear about gluten. Not gliadin. And well, gliadin is a component of the wheat protein gluten. So it's in there as well, causing you pain and discomfort sometimes. And it kind of what it does is it triggers a T-cell mediated immune response in genetically susceptible individuals. And that can cause celiac disease. But gluten and gliadin are the protein fractions

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of the most common grains. So wheat, rye, barley, malt, all of those things, there I am. So, that leads me to my next thing. Once I found this information out, I started my gluten-free journey. And let me tell you, gluten is in everything.

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Literally everything. Even condiments. Yeah, I had no idea. No idea. I just thought, oh yeah, I'll cut out bread and pastas and that stuff. Well, it took me doing a lot of research to kind of figure out everything that you had

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to avoid. Because wheat is the most common gluten-containing grain, it obviously has a lot of properties that you want, like thickening and getting things fluffy. So it's used in like sauces, soups, beverages, you can have it in medication, supplements, topicals, and even oats need to specifically be gluten free. I had no idea.

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So I started doing some research into all of this and after a few weeks, I noticed a huge difference in how I felt. And it was really hard kind of figuring out what I could and couldn't eat. So in these first few months, I remember I would get gluten occasionally.

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So going into this gluten in, it allowed me to start to identify my symptoms better. So I had said earlier that there were a lot of symptoms I was having, but I didn't know that they were correlated to gluten specifically for me. I just felt so horrible that I didn't even know

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what was gluten and what wasn't. So I'm gonna go through some symptoms of mine that were odd and kind of weird, but I determined that they were definitely gluten related. So starting off, joint pain. I had bad joint pain and you know joints get swollen, they get inflamed. I do think this is a more common one. A lot

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of people find when they do cut out gluten that their joints feel better and that's wonderful because everybody doesn't want joint pain obviously and Yeah, especially at my age. I'm like, I'm too young for this. So joint pain. Another one was very intense brain fog. I never had brain fog before. And it was really hard for me to explain, especially to people, because how do you explain brain fog, you know, I just felt very like I was in slow motion, honestly. I know I looked it up online to kind of try to give

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an explanation of how it felt, almost like you were trapped in quicksand, or you're slowly turning to stone. I just had confusion, lack of focus and mental clarity, and brain fog is a huge one for me that I get. That I'm so thankful I don't get anymore.

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And along with brain fog is extreme fatigue. When I get gluten, I genuinely feel like I could sleep a whole entire day and then still be tired. And then still not be able to like stay awake. And obviously when you're a student and working, you don't have time to feel like that.

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You have to go on with your everyday life and it just feels like you're walking around as a zombie and that's not good. Not how you want to feel when overall you're a healthy, you know, healthy young adult. At the same time though, even though I was having that extreme fatigue, I would sometimes get insomnia at night and the reason was because of something that can, it's referred to as like restless leg syndrome essentially. I noticed that the nerves in my legs had just like this

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unpleasant sensation that made me feel like I had to move them or get up and walk and I've done research since and that can be related to gluten. Who'd have thought? Not me. But yeah, so it's all of these different things that you just wouldn't think about And also I'll note like mouth ulcers so like kink or sores things like that inside the mouth That was something that I realized I got as well, and I just want to reiterate the migraines and the neck pain you know the muscles can get very stiff and inflamed with it and that was a huge symptom for me. So the

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reason why I go through all these and note them is because I really do want people to know if you are having any of these symptoms maybe it would be beneficial to think about taking gluten out of your diet for a while and seeing how you feel. So yeah I am happily one year gluten-free. I'm so much healthier and happier and energetic. I feel like I got my life back in a way.

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And I will say that the food does start to taste better. You know, I promise your taste buds will adapt. I remember when I first went gluten-free, I was like, oh no, like this stuff does not taste how Normal food would taste but your taste buds will adapt and I don't even notice it anymore My family jokes to me sometimes as some of the products are like this tastes, you know

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Different and I'm like really I don't think so, you know But and anymore with being gluten sensitive or intolerant or whatever. There's so many options on the market Yeah, it's come such a long way. It's come a very long way. And that's another thing. If I had this 10 years ago, it would definitely probably

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be harder. But I didn't think it was, once I knew what had gluten in it, it was fairly easy to find alternatives for those things. But, yeah, I mean, I often say how going gluten-free changed my life, and people definitely probably think I'm exaggerating, but it truly did.

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And I do want to say that also my aunt and I decided to cut out food dyes and artificial sweeteners, and that definitely also contributed to a decrease in my migraines and I think that is important that was something that I just I had always eaten food dyes and artificial sweeteners and all those things I just never thought about it but I will notice

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apart from the gluten it you know I'm obviously very gluten-free now but if I will have a candy with food dye in it or something with artificial sweeteners that is a trigger for my for my migraines as well personally and also something I want to note because I noted it in the beginning my lactose intolerance essentially since stopping gluten I do feel like my gut has healed and in that way I find that I'm a little less intolerant to lactose. And I feel like I can eat lactose and all the things better now than what I could in

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the past. So yeah, that's my story. Good. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for sharing. Yeah, it's crazy, you know, identifying that primary trigger for malabsorption, allowed for the dairy

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to kind of come on its own. And yeah, there's definitely benefits to dairy. So it's nice that you can dabble in that a little bit more. Definitely, there's benefits to dairy. And that's another thing as well. You know, obviously, I think a lot of people

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can kind of go on, they start taking things out of their diet, but it is important to note that if there's a reason to take it out of your diet, yes, it's very important then. But there are benefits to having things like dairy or different things, they have nutritional benefits as well.

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For sure, for sure.

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If you can, though.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then it's funny that you noted that your taste buds do change, right? I mean, you get used to it, you kind of get in routine. And then when you do have an exposure or something like that, you're like, oh, it's not worth it. Yeah, no, it's definitely not worth it. Yeah, it's, you know, sometimes I get asked like, oh, like, don't you just want to take a bite or try it? And

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it's tempting, but you know, I know what will follow if I do. And it's definitely severe enough for me to not want to take that chance at all. Yeah. And then I guess just a disclaimer as well, because I do get this question from some people, people wonder why I didn't test for celiac when I first found out that gluten was affecting me, how it was. And I want to say that at the time, it just wasn't on my radar

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because nobody in my family has celiac. So I didn't even think about it. I had an ANA test for autoimmune and it was negative. And at the time, obviously celiac, it's immune mediated, autoimmune mediated. However, just because you do have like a negative ANA,

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it doesn't necessarily mean that you don't have celiac disease, but in order to get tested for celiac, you do have to be eating gluten. And at this point, you know, I'd have to eat it for like up to eight weeks to get that test and I couldn't do it. I just couldn't, but it is

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you know something that I want to note that if you really do think that you could potentially be celiac maybe you do want to get that test before you cut out gluten. But yeah, that's just a side note, a disclaimer. Absolutely, I have a lot of patients who've done that who have cut it out and they feel so much better. They're like, well, even if it would be positive,

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like I'm not gonna go and eat gluten to find out. Like it's just better not to eat gluten, so.

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Exactly, and it's a long process to get that diagnosis of really being celiac. It can take multiple positive tests and endoscopies. So personally, I just, it would have, you know, been a lot to get that, and with being in school,

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I just didn't have the time to do so. But yeah, I wanted to note that as well.

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Well, thank you so much for taking the time

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and sharing your story, and how your diet changes have drastically,

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really improved your life, and how you're functioning.

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Yes, of course.

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Thank you for having me, and I was excited to share all of that, and I hope that if any listeners do cut it out and notice a difference, then that's awesome. But yeah. So for our third Holistic Health Anonymous, we are going

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to dive into the topic of gut feelings. We know the gut is the second brain, but how many times have you had a gut feeling that something's wrong? You've seen doctors, you've kind of done your own research, and you're still not getting those answers. Was there an instance where you've had that gut feeling and you sought out resolution on your own? That could be with, you know, a condition,

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symptoms, it could be, you know, for example, if you noticed a correlation with your kids, with diet, or vaccines, or you know anything like that. So especially us as mothers, we always have that gut feeling and as women I feel like sometimes we often get dismissed that it's in our head or it's hormones or or whatnot. So give me some examples and please share share your stories if you've had a gut feeling that wasn't being addressed but share your stories if you've had a gut feeling that wasn't being addressed but

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you were persistent and you made those connections on yourself.

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